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Let's Play Doctor, Shall We?

Fri, 11/02/2012 - 02:07
Throughout my adolescence, a normal side-effect from a lack of sleep was an incredibly brief yet debilitating full body convulsion (1 to 2 seconds). One fateful morning this past May, I had the unfortunate opportunity to see just how bad these convulsions could get. After getting only a few hours of sleep (and due to stress from multiple factors in my life at the time), a random barrage of convulsions hit me one after the other throughout the morning. Walking to get coffee, I dropped my cell phone and I also fell on the ground. I eventually got coffee, which I subsequently spilled all over myself. Even 30 minutes after, I still couldn't drink or eat anything due to my lack of muscle control from the frequency of these convulsions. Eventually, I went to the hospital just to see what was going on, to which they told me (after no testing, mind you) that these were called "Sleep Deprivation Seizures." Is this epilepsy? Is this anything RELATED to epilepsy? I go into a neurocenter in a few days, but just like a kid waiting to see what's in the giant box before Christmas, I'm incredibly curious to find out what's inside (my brain, that is). So, any ideas? I'll post back on here when I get results.

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Re: Let's Play Doctor, Shall We?

Submitted by 3Hours2Live on Fri, 2012-11-02 - 04:56
Hi Ckrusec, One of my problems from epilepsy includes seemingly cyclical clusters of seizures, with a cycle about the length of the lunar cycle, but definitely not in sync with the moon. As my biological day appears to be closer to 25 hours long than 24, if I were wealthy, I would totally isolate myself from the daily cycle of the environment, and see if such isolation changed the cycle of clusters of seizures. In regards to other irregular sleeping habits, seizures from epilepsy control my sleep much more than sleep influences my seizures. If you wish to play academic doctor for the subject of "Sleep Deprivation Seizures", one source involving epilepsy is "Sleep Deprivation and Epilepsy" by Beth A. Malow (Epilepsy Curr. 2004 September; 4(5): 193–195): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1176369/ Another source, with differentials from epilepsy, is "Imitators of Epilepsy" by Dr. Peter Kaplan & Dr. Robert Fisher (2005): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/?term=sleep%20deprivation%20AND%20imitepil%5Bbook%5D (for easier instance: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK7419/ ) http://books.google.com/books?id=zg5T1CsIj7UC&printsec=frontcover&dq=imitators+of+epilepsy&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jXWTUKTcFcirigLE6oGICQ&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=sleep%20deprivation&f=false (Are there a few, to many, or any, "sleep starts" ("sleep jumps") cases of narcolepsy too???). The notion of anything being related as a "facilitator of epileptic seizures" is loaded with confusions of terminologies: "The 1989 ILAE classification[2] defines precipitating seizures and precipitating factors as follows: “Precipitated seizures are those in which environmental or internal factors consistently precede the attacks and are differentiated from spontaneous epileptic attacks in which precipitating factors cannot be identified. Certain nonspecific factors (e.g., sleeplessness, alcohol or drug withdrawal, or hyperventilation) are common precipitators and are not specific modes of seizure precipitation." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK2596/ (and esp. the author's note (b), below what's quoted). A functioning neurological definition of the word "stress" is very much more worse, and lacking, than one for the elusive concept of "consciousness". Tadzio

Re: Let's Play Doctor, Shall We?

Submitted by Nerak95 on Sun, 2012-11-04 - 22:33

Hard to say if this is epilepsy. These episodes could be metabolic in nature (low blood pressure, hypoglycemic) or even related to prescription or OTC medications.  Sometimes medications or even supplements can lower the seizure threshold.  Glad you're heading to a neuro center where diagnostic testing can help determine why you're having these episodes.

Karen

Hard to say if this is epilepsy. These episodes could be metabolic in nature (low blood pressure, hypoglycemic) or even related to prescription or OTC medications.  Sometimes medications or even supplements can lower the seizure threshold.  Glad you're heading to a neuro center where diagnostic testing can help determine why you're having these episodes.

Karen

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