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No more Depakote! Party time!!

Fri, 03/04/2005 - 13:23

I've not posted a lot here on the site, but I wanted to let you all know what we're doing on Friday night.  My 8 yr. old daughter was diagnosed with complex partial seizures on November 2 and was immediately put onto Depakote.  To say that we hate how that medicine affected her is an understatement.  After meeting her neuro on December 20, he wanted to switch her to Lamictal....so we began the long process of weaning meds.  Krystyne is normally a very happy, active, cheerful little girl.  Everyone who meets her loves her.  She's just got one of those personalities.  Well--that all began changing after the Depakote was started.  She didn't have any really bad reactions or anything like that, and her seizures stopped after a few weeks.  She was just tired all the time.  She wasn't telling jokes and making people laugh.  She went to school, played basketball, wrestled, and slept.  Sometimes she would have to take a day off of school just to catch up on sleep.  It broke my heart to see my little girl like this.  Well, last week I noticed a change.  She'd already cut out 2 doses of Depakote a day and was only taking it once a day.  She was laughing and telling jokes.  She was able to play the ENTIRE basketball game on Saturday.  She wasn't tired.  She didn't want to snuggle up on the couch at 6:00.  WOOHOO!!

So--we decided to throw a "Pink Party" on Friday to celebrate that last dose of Depakote being taken.  (Depakote is a pink pill for those of you who have not taken it)  We've invited family and friends over, and all the food will be pink.  We've invited people to wear pink if they would like to, and to also bring something pink that they HATE to throw away when Krystyne throws away the remaining pills she has.  We're also going to release pink balloons--as are friends and family around the state.  We can't wait for this party...and I just wanted to share some fun with you guys here!

Veronica  (and Krystyne)

Comments

RE: RE: No more Depakote! Party time!!

Submitted by theresab72 on Fri, 2005-03-04 - 11:49

Diane,

I am a person with seizure-like activity, but it is a movement disorder (paroxysmal dyskinesias). I come on this board a lot, because I also take a seizure medicine and can relate to what people go through on them.  I am also a mother and could not imagine how hard it is for you to see your child go through this.  I think every parents nightmare is for their child to be sick and to feel out of control about helping them.  All you want to do is make them better and you can't.  You have to rely on doctors to do that.  It is very hard to let someone else be responsible for your child's health.

I worry that my children will inherit what I have, since my condition is thought to be of a genetic kind.  I feel if it does happen that I will feel responsible for it, as something I gave to them, but hope that I will have enough sense to not blame myself.  I would never choose this for my child and I did not get this until this year, so I did not know the risks before having my wonderful children.  I just pray that they will get through their lives without it.

As the original writer in this note is suggesting, celebrate the good things!  Like her daughter getting off of Depakote, that is something to celebrate.  (I was also on Depakote, and it not only helped me gain 20 lbs in 2 months, but also took away half of my hair and changed my personality too!)  Crying is not going to help anything and if your child sees you doing it on a constant basis, they might feel guilt for making you feel this way.  (If you need to cry, make sure he is unaware of it! Believe me, children take the blame when their parent is crying.  My daughter felt it was her fault for me getting my disorder because she stressed me out!  You couldn't imaging how I felt when she said that.  After that I try not to get upset in front of them.  And if I've just had a seizure, I make sure to tell them that I am OK.)  Try to be more proactive and do research, research, research.  Talk to everyone who will listen about this.  It sounds like you need a good support system.  Do you have family or good friends you can talk about this to?  Try to get help for yourself, as you need to take care of your son.

I hope all of this was OK to say to you and if I offended you in any way, I am really sorry.  I just hope you can find the strength you need in order to deal with this.  Keep writing on here too, there are a lot of loving people who care and are going through the same thing you are.  Find other boards too.  There are a lot out there.  Share your story, get support and hopefully soon you will be able to accept the situation and feel a little better about this, feel more in control.

Please write back.  I'm worried about you...Theresa

Diane,

I am a person with seizure-like activity, but it is a movement disorder (paroxysmal dyskinesias). I come on this board a lot, because I also take a seizure medicine and can relate to what people go through on them.  I am also a mother and could not imagine how hard it is for you to see your child go through this.  I think every parents nightmare is for their child to be sick and to feel out of control about helping them.  All you want to do is make them better and you can't.  You have to rely on doctors to do that.  It is very hard to let someone else be responsible for your child's health.

I worry that my children will inherit what I have, since my condition is thought to be of a genetic kind.  I feel if it does happen that I will feel responsible for it, as something I gave to them, but hope that I will have enough sense to not blame myself.  I would never choose this for my child and I did not get this until this year, so I did not know the risks before having my wonderful children.  I just pray that they will get through their lives without it.

As the original writer in this note is suggesting, celebrate the good things!  Like her daughter getting off of Depakote, that is something to celebrate.  (I was also on Depakote, and it not only helped me gain 20 lbs in 2 months, but also took away half of my hair and changed my personality too!)  Crying is not going to help anything and if your child sees you doing it on a constant basis, they might feel guilt for making you feel this way.  (If you need to cry, make sure he is unaware of it! Believe me, children take the blame when their parent is crying.  My daughter felt it was her fault for me getting my disorder because she stressed me out!  You couldn't imaging how I felt when she said that.  After that I try not to get upset in front of them.  And if I've just had a seizure, I make sure to tell them that I am OK.)  Try to be more proactive and do research, research, research.  Talk to everyone who will listen about this.  It sounds like you need a good support system.  Do you have family or good friends you can talk about this to?  Try to get help for yourself, as you need to take care of your son.

I hope all of this was OK to say to you and if I offended you in any way, I am really sorry.  I just hope you can find the strength you need in order to deal with this.  Keep writing on here too, there are a lot of loving people who care and are going through the same thing you are.  Find other boards too.  There are a lot out there.  Share your story, get support and hopefully soon you will be able to accept the situation and feel a little better about this, feel more in control.

Please write back.  I'm worried about you...Theresa

RE: RE: No more Depakote! Party time!!

Submitted by bugsmom on Fri, 2005-03-04 - 13:23

Diane~~

I am sorry to hear about your son.  What type of seizures is he having?  Krystyne has complex (and we believe simple also) partial seizures.  For us, it has actually been a very long road to this diagnosis.  It started when she was about 6, and she was having trouble sitting down to finish a meal.  She told us contstantly that her "tummy felt weird" or that it hurt.  We assmumed it was linked to eating, so we began giving her Tums and Rolaids.  She would chew mint gum and take mints to school to settle her stomach.  After that didn't seem to work, I took her to our family doctor.  He prescribed Tagamet for her and told us to check back in a month.  A month later, we were back in the office--things were the same.  This time he ordered some ultrasounds to check her gallbladder, liver, etc.  While they were there, they also checked her kidneys for the disease that I have.  (So far--she's clear on that one!! YIPPEE!!)  Everything was normal and functioning, so the doctor tried her on Prevacid.  A few months later, still no progress.  She was getting frustrated, and so were we.  She became stubborn and began to tell us that she was feeling better.  She was tired of the blood workups, the poking and prodding....tired of it all.  So we took a break from everything for about 9 months or so and just let her be a kid.

Fast forward to right before her 8th birthday--about a year ago.  (She'll be 9 on the 20th)  Her symptoms were more frequent and irritating her more.  She was sent to Children's in Seattle for a consult with a gastroenterologist.  On the first visit he went over the history of problems and did a short examination.  He put the gloves on, and we're talking digestive tract, so use your imagination on where that finger of his went.  Krystyne was PI**ED!!  But, the doctor found blood in that stool sample, so he ordered MORE tests!  She and I took a few more trips to Seattle over the next couple of months.  She had a few 1/2 day blood work-ups, an upper GI--the works.  During this time, she had also started softball.  We caught her "daydreaming" frequently, but didn't think anything of it.  We chalked it up to the stress of her tests and she was just tired.  This continued, and then we had her final tests.  A colonoscopy and endoscopy!  On an 8 year old!!  She had that done, and we came home.  Got home just in time for her to sit on the bench with her team--and watch her sister play.  We noticed more daydreaming, but she had just experienced a VERY invasive procedure, so we thought nothing of it.  Everything came back okay again, so we were back to square one.  The doctor had us exclude some things from her diet and continue to bring him stool samples.  The blood was gone (YEAH!!), and the symptoms were better when there was no dairy.  Not gone, but better.  He determined that she was lactoce intolerant and she takes Lactaid.  No big deal, right?  Everything else was just some growing pains....

This fall, we were still going through the normal stuff.  She took her Lactaid, and she never complained about her stomach.  My brother-in-law pointed out her "spacing out" episodes, and asked if we had put her on a new medication (no).  She just seemed "different" to him, and her eyes were a bit "freaky" to him.  We began to keep an eye on her--but during this time she had also been put onto an iron supplement for slight anemia, so we figured it was just that.  Then we noticed it was happening more frequently.  She would be in the middle of something, and just stop.  In a few seconds, she just picked up where she left off.  She began to have "episodes" at basketball practice, and her team mates got scared and a bit worried.  The last straw that sent us to the doctor was when during a passing drill she just stopped and held onto the ball.  The girls were yelling her name, and she just stood there.  All of a sudden, she dropped the ball and began to spin around in circles.  Just as suddenly she stopped, looked at her hands, and asked where the ball was.  I called the doctor the next day, and he wanted to see her IMMEDIATELY after I described what had been going on.

Our family doctor put her onto Depakote, and we were sent back to Children's.  First, an EEG was scheduled.  After that was done, we scheduled an appointment with a neurologist.  We met him on Dec. 20 and talked to him for quite a while.  He went over the EEG results with us, and suggested switching her to Lamictal.  He went over the other drugs available, but suggested that this one would be the better one for her to remain as active as she is.  He also wanted an MRI done since the type of seizures she has are sometimes caused by tumors or malformations in the brain.  We were able to get in for an MRI on Dec. 23....but had to wait for the results until after Christmas.  It was a long wait, but everything came back clear.

In my family, I am the strong one.  I got online and I read---and I read some more.  I got as much information as I could.  I answered the questions that the family had.  I explained everything to my husband and my 2 daughters.  I told them we had to keep living.  I really believe that is key in any disease.  As long as you are physically able to, keep going on "business as usual".  Education is a wonderful thing.  The more you learn, the more you can teach others.  Epilepsy has a stigma that I had to break my own husband from.  When I called him and told him the neuro's diagnosis and mentioned the word "epilepsy", he freaked!!  He told me that she wasn't having "Epileptic seizures".  That's when I got to explain to him that there are many forms of epilepsy, and yes, his daughter had it.  We have educated everyone who spends time with her about this.  Everyone is supportive.  I know it's hard....and I did cry.  Twice.  The first time was when I went into the pharmacy (small town, here) and while explaining to the pharmacist what was going on, the ladies working there began to cry and hug me.  The 2nd time was when we got the "all clear" on the MRI.  You see--I was more frightened of her having brain surgery!!  Something that medication can help?  I can deal with that a little better.  There are days that it's tough, but I just push forward.  I guess I'm that sick-o optimist that everyone wants to hit.  I FIND reasons to celebrate.  Thus, the "Pink Party".  I'm here if you want to talk--or vent.  It's tough, but I read some of the stories here, and realize that my daughter really doesn't have it all that bad.  She's got a HUGE support system of family and friends, and her medication works for her.  Feel free to email me anytime.  [email protected]

Veronica

OH--and BTW--all of the stomach problems?  GONE!  That's why I believe she also has/had simple partials.  I just got back from our family doctor for myself (nasty cough going around. ICK!), and talked to him about my theory.  He agrees, and told me that looking for epilepsy is about #20 on the list of things to rule out when dealing with abdominal pain.....

Diane~~

I am sorry to hear about your son.  What type of seizures is he having?  Krystyne has complex (and we believe simple also) partial seizures.  For us, it has actually been a very long road to this diagnosis.  It started when she was about 6, and she was having trouble sitting down to finish a meal.  She told us contstantly that her "tummy felt weird" or that it hurt.  We assmumed it was linked to eating, so we began giving her Tums and Rolaids.  She would chew mint gum and take mints to school to settle her stomach.  After that didn't seem to work, I took her to our family doctor.  He prescribed Tagamet for her and told us to check back in a month.  A month later, we were back in the office--things were the same.  This time he ordered some ultrasounds to check her gallbladder, liver, etc.  While they were there, they also checked her kidneys for the disease that I have.  (So far--she's clear on that one!! YIPPEE!!)  Everything was normal and functioning, so the doctor tried her on Prevacid.  A few months later, still no progress.  She was getting frustrated, and so were we.  She became stubborn and began to tell us that she was feeling better.  She was tired of the blood workups, the poking and prodding....tired of it all.  So we took a break from everything for about 9 months or so and just let her be a kid.

Fast forward to right before her 8th birthday--about a year ago.  (She'll be 9 on the 20th)  Her symptoms were more frequent and irritating her more.  She was sent to Children's in Seattle for a consult with a gastroenterologist.  On the first visit he went over the history of problems and did a short examination.  He put the gloves on, and we're talking digestive tract, so use your imagination on where that finger of his went.  Krystyne was PI**ED!!  But, the doctor found blood in that stool sample, so he ordered MORE tests!  She and I took a few more trips to Seattle over the next couple of months.  She had a few 1/2 day blood work-ups, an upper GI--the works.  During this time, she had also started softball.  We caught her "daydreaming" frequently, but didn't think anything of it.  We chalked it up to the stress of her tests and she was just tired.  This continued, and then we had her final tests.  A colonoscopy and endoscopy!  On an 8 year old!!  She had that done, and we came home.  Got home just in time for her to sit on the bench with her team--and watch her sister play.  We noticed more daydreaming, but she had just experienced a VERY invasive procedure, so we thought nothing of it.  Everything came back okay again, so we were back to square one.  The doctor had us exclude some things from her diet and continue to bring him stool samples.  The blood was gone (YEAH!!), and the symptoms were better when there was no dairy.  Not gone, but better.  He determined that she was lactoce intolerant and she takes Lactaid.  No big deal, right?  Everything else was just some growing pains....

This fall, we were still going through the normal stuff.  She took her Lactaid, and she never complained about her stomach.  My brother-in-law pointed out her "spacing out" episodes, and asked if we had put her on a new medication (no).  She just seemed "different" to him, and her eyes were a bit "freaky" to him.  We began to keep an eye on her--but during this time she had also been put onto an iron supplement for slight anemia, so we figured it was just that.  Then we noticed it was happening more frequently.  She would be in the middle of something, and just stop.  In a few seconds, she just picked up where she left off.  She began to have "episodes" at basketball practice, and her team mates got scared and a bit worried.  The last straw that sent us to the doctor was when during a passing drill she just stopped and held onto the ball.  The girls were yelling her name, and she just stood there.  All of a sudden, she dropped the ball and began to spin around in circles.  Just as suddenly she stopped, looked at her hands, and asked where the ball was.  I called the doctor the next day, and he wanted to see her IMMEDIATELY after I described what had been going on.

Our family doctor put her onto Depakote, and we were sent back to Children's.  First, an EEG was scheduled.  After that was done, we scheduled an appointment with a neurologist.  We met him on Dec. 20 and talked to him for quite a while.  He went over the EEG results with us, and suggested switching her to Lamictal.  He went over the other drugs available, but suggested that this one would be the better one for her to remain as active as she is.  He also wanted an MRI done since the type of seizures she has are sometimes caused by tumors or malformations in the brain.  We were able to get in for an MRI on Dec. 23....but had to wait for the results until after Christmas.  It was a long wait, but everything came back clear.

In my family, I am the strong one.  I got online and I read---and I read some more.  I got as much information as I could.  I answered the questions that the family had.  I explained everything to my husband and my 2 daughters.  I told them we had to keep living.  I really believe that is key in any disease.  As long as you are physically able to, keep going on "business as usual".  Education is a wonderful thing.  The more you learn, the more you can teach others.  Epilepsy has a stigma that I had to break my own husband from.  When I called him and told him the neuro's diagnosis and mentioned the word "epilepsy", he freaked!!  He told me that she wasn't having "Epileptic seizures".  That's when I got to explain to him that there are many forms of epilepsy, and yes, his daughter had it.  We have educated everyone who spends time with her about this.  Everyone is supportive.  I know it's hard....and I did cry.  Twice.  The first time was when I went into the pharmacy (small town, here) and while explaining to the pharmacist what was going on, the ladies working there began to cry and hug me.  The 2nd time was when we got the "all clear" on the MRI.  You see--I was more frightened of her having brain surgery!!  Something that medication can help?  I can deal with that a little better.  There are days that it's tough, but I just push forward.  I guess I'm that sick-o optimist that everyone wants to hit.  I FIND reasons to celebrate.  Thus, the "Pink Party".  I'm here if you want to talk--or vent.  It's tough, but I read some of the stories here, and realize that my daughter really doesn't have it all that bad.  She's got a HUGE support system of family and friends, and her medication works for her.  Feel free to email me anytime.  [email protected]

Veronica

OH--and BTW--all of the stomach problems?  GONE!  That's why I believe she also has/had simple partials.  I just got back from our family doctor for myself (nasty cough going around. ICK!), and talked to him about my theory.  He agrees, and told me that looking for epilepsy is about #20 on the list of things to rule out when dealing with abdominal pain.....

RE: No more Depakote! Party time!!

Submitted by theresab72 on Fri, 2005-03-04 - 11:51
Excellent!  That is a reason to celebrate!  You're a good mom!  Best wishes to you and your daughter!  ~Theresa

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